David Hall-Matthews of Publish What You Fund says that he spoke to the World Bank recently and asked them when they would publish data automatically. The World Bank said that would take a complete rebuild of their data collecting and publishing systems. Hall-Matthews says that if that's what it takes, they should do it!
Williams - "In the 3 or 4 years we campaigned on this our values were making the data public, making the data available."
Michael Jarvis from the World Bank - "We have been working on opening up contract data. There is resistance because the capacity isn't in place and questions over who polices that?"
Jarvis - "You can develop ways of putting out information that resonate with your target audience."
Jarvis - "You have to put out the raw data. The unpredictable uses then come to the fore, all the things you didn't foresee. I think you can pursue all these fronts at once. If you can master that then people will not worry about zombie data but see that it has a consequence for them."
Stefann Verhulst - The Governance Lab - "We have a tremendous infrastructure of data census that can be use to provide open data. Waiting for governments or corporates to share open data won't get you there. We need to think of creative ways to engage in the zombies, the data."
Stefaan Verhulst of The GovernanceLab@NYU - "There are millions of people who would provide open data...waiting for governments to share data, won't get you there but if you can start thinking of creative ways to engage the zombies you can bring more transparency"
Robert Palmer - Global Witness - We spend a lot of our time investigative and our investigations take years and years. We dig for government contracts and find that the data that should be out there isn't out there."
Dave Banisar - Article 19 "We deal with trying to help journalists and FOIA activists develop a proper legal system within their own countries"
"The Kenyan Open Data policy is a little underwhelming" - Banisar
David Banisar - "Heard a lot about how people with $4 mobile phones are going to change the world but need the rule of law in order to hold governements to account"
Banisar - "I was in New York for the UN GA. A lot of people were talking about data revolution but not so much revolution."
"Need to have Freedom of Information laws and journalists need to be free from intimidation before data change the world" - Banisar
Andrew Stott - "Company data which is held at state level is not very open in the United States"
Daniel Kaufman - Transparency with impunity does not lead to results. #zombiedata
We must be careful not to think that transparency is enough, Kaufmann says, could lead to #zombietransparency
Daniel Kaufman - "We are in Canary Wharf! what about the risk investment agencies?"
The gamechanger for the World Governance Index that Kaufmann helped to oversee at the World Bank was when investors and credit rating agencies started to use them.
Investors need to get onboard with transparency
, Kaufmann says
Clare Short thinks that progress is being made. But we need to figure out how data communicates with people.
Ellen Miller, Sunlight Foundation - There is zombie transparency in the US, we call is transparency theater
Sunlight relies on journalists to tell these stories. Journalists wanted online, accessible, machine readable data. We have had no advocacy help from journalists.
Ellen Miller says that she's worried that the Open Government Partnership commitments will end when the particular government administration ends.
Karina Litvak says that investors are under much more pressure to be transparent.
Litvak says open data changes the decision making process upstream in companies. It changes how people interact commercially.
Litvak on transparency - "Once you have made one step forward it is impossible to take a step back"
Corporate transparency is one-way, Litvack says. Once you've taken a step forward towards more transparency, you can't go back.
Litvak - Information is going to be available to everyone so businesses will have to compete in a different way
Investors won't use this data for investment decisions, Litvack says
Jamie Drummond, ONE thinks there is a backlash on open data in the states from investors
The data of one small project by an enormous company is not material to an investor, Litvack says
Litvack - A lot of people believe that stability in the commodities markets is vital to generating higher returns.